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career path

bbs 上看到的

发信人: lafer (It's my time), 信区: Job
标 题: 学cs的几个career path
发信站: 日月光华 (2005年06月01日22:16:17 星期三), 站内信件

根据自己面试的几个地方，写一下各自的career path，绝非炫耀贴，想留点心路历程下
来造福后者
先list一下
intel ISS
Deloitte IT Support
joyo.com Data Analyst
PWC GTS(Support)
PWC GRMS
Trilogy developer
IBM Technical writing
Microsoft WindowsSDK Support Engineer
Siemens Support Engineer
DOW IT Center
Hand Consulting Consultant
Accenture programmer

算是分两部分吧，首先是技术类的，再者是咨询类的。
{
intel的ISS，这个职位算是相当于Solution的咨询，是给客户提供解决方案的，要求很
高，很多交大的牛人（我看到有些人工作经验两页，项目经验三四页的-,-b）也去应聘
，不过最后好像这个部门一直没招到人，对于那些技术很牛但是不想去做coding也不想
做战略管理的猛人们是个不错的选择。

Deloitte 和 PWC的IT support,要求很苛刻，并不是指技术上的，而是指处世为人上的
，说白了，嘴皮子上的功夫要利索，如果大家觉得自己很能掰一下，而且处世比较游刃
有余可以考虑，不过门槛不高，上升空间很狭窄，但是pwc这个职位有机会调去GRMS，是
个非cs专业想进it或者四大的同志们比较不错的选择。

joyo的data analyst,不是很了解，但是听他们的经理说可以坐到管理层，但是这个企业
给我感觉不好，不推荐去。。。

Trilogy~~~是我最想去的地方。。。进了面试，但是面试题目里的算法优化太bt了，要
优化n次，鄙人实在没如此智商。。。但是感觉上公司非常kind，都是老外，而且钱很多
，一年好像是14w，想做纯技术，立志于想在计算机编程艺术上有所突破的牛人们赶快去
抢吧。

IBM Technical writing,是个比较低档的工作，进去先笔试，翻译，听力，写文章，比
较无聊，我进了面试，但是拒了他们，我了解下来这个职位算是可以做到pm,就是projec
t manager，但是一路上会比较艰辛。

Microsoft SDK sp engineer,那天面完普华的grms，下午就跑去了美罗，四轮面到底，
累个半死，微软现在的service分成sdk,mainframe,msn，好像是这样，开发不清楚，感
觉上公司里大家都穿着比较随便，平时不是很忙，但是mm一律都很不错，据我了解下来
（通过在里面的朋友以及面试的一些QA），careerpath可以做到部门经理或者teamleade
r或者是项目经理，不过公司过于庞大，升职估计比较艰辛。

Siemens sp engineer,唉。。。不提也罢。。。公司一塌糊涂，办公室很乱，还抽烟，
基于这些原因我就不问path了。。。

DOW IT Center,众所周知，张江要建center，招了很多人，就一个office建立来看，从
头做起是很能学到东西的，面试时候的老外也非常kind，虽然1小时下来很累，但是不觉
得有压力，公司在项目上的大致方向分两块，一块是windows mainframe的东西和一些su
pport，另一块是sap的coding和实施，不知道他们sap是不是想做consulting那种，还是
自己公司做一下实施，总之这两条线都很不错，我个人比较看好sap，毕竟是以后非常多
公司发展的方向和需求，想做consulting的可以利用这个做跳板，但是面试的时候千万
不要表现出这点来，否则就会像我一样被k掉。。。

}
咨询类是我从德勤的一些资料中慢慢发觉有趣的一个行业，觉得很符合我的个性，能够
帮助别人，工作有挑战性，能跟人打交道，还能到处做项目。
{
咨询业我想着重说一下，咱们先来划分一下咨询业的范围吧。
4tiers
第一层，Mckinsey,BCG等战略管理咨询
第二层，IBM,Accenture,Bearing Point等IT咨询（包括sap和项目实施以及外包）
第三层，四大，审计专业服务，包括内审，流程控制，风险管理，兼并，金融顾问等
第四层，上面三层不屑一做的，这层的公司来做，但是也有做出成绩的，比如下面要说
的中国本土咨询老大级的汉得

咨询业大致的种类也要分一下，除去上面几类的大范围，还有一些种类的咨询，比如品
牌识别，Enterprise IG是no1，上海eig隶属于奥美广告，还有市场，市场分析，猎头，
这些也都是咨询业的大头。

PWC GRMS,我通过自荐进入了面试cycle，有机会跟一位在里面工作六年的学长聊了，真
的觉得grms对我来说这个right career，可惜因为自己的原因被partner拒了，原因是我
太嫩。。。不过这次的面试收获颇丰，了解到自己的长处和短处，了解到整个行业概况
和交到了朋友:)

Hand consulting也是不错的一个地方，门槛比较低，但是做的公司的档次也不是非常高
，但是想进入咨询业这个公司是个很好的选择，他们有3个月的培训和3个月的onjob
training，虽说有淘汰机制，但是我想复旦的同志们应该不会惨到那个程度吧。公司总
部在中环，张江有开发中心，由于不大想去那边，所以没了解仔细。

说说Accenture吧，埃森哲大家应该都知道一点，it和管理咨询，实施占了很大比重，赚
钱主要靠外包，埃森哲有很多的workforce，也就是工种，比如customer, sales,
solution, consulting, 应该还有更多，但是我目前只知道这些，solution基本上是pro
grammer entry level,上去以后是senior programmer,analyst programmer, system
analyst, manager, senior manager,大p，consulting的话是analyst, conslutant,
manager, s manager,大p，想了解的更清楚可以去他们网站看看。
}

基本上的career path就是这样吧，有说的不对或者漏的地方敬请改正（肯定会有错的k
eke..）
总之给后来人一些前瞻性的选择吧，能仔细的看清楚一个职业的概况，知道自己的优势
和劣势，并且分析自己的性格和能力，我想你一定会找到合适自己的position和career
path的。
最后谢谢job版大家的帮助，我找工作算是尘埃落定告一段落，今后要好好开始工作了～
—

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